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MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
Held Wednesday,
January 27, 1999
For the purpose of discussing Green Ridge House Parking.
The meeting began at 8:05 p.m. It was held in the Multi-Purpose Room
of the Community Center.
PRESENT WERE: Council members Edward V.J. Putens, Rodney M. Roberts,
Alan Turnbull and Mayor Judith F. Davis.
STAFF PRESENT WERE: Michael P. McLaughlin, City Manager; David E. Moran,
City Clerk; Bo Ferguson, Management Analyst; Terri Hruby, Community Planner
and Tom Anton, GPI.
Mayor Davis welcomed everyone and announced the purpose of the meeting.
Ms. Hruby began by describing the first of three plans being presented
to Council. Mr. Roberts asked about tree loss and replantings. Ms. Hruby
responded that 10 trees were being lost and 4 were being replaced. Mr.
Roberts hoped that trees could be placed on the Greenbelt Homes Incorporated
(GHI) property between Green Ridge and 20 Court.
Mr. Cassels and Mr. Auerbach expressed opposition to the first plan
which proposes additional parking on-site. Mr. Jewel noted that the trees
shielded 20 Court from the lights. Mr. Turnbull expressed support for
a plan that solves Green Ridge House's (GRH) perceived parking problem
on GRH property. However he expressed concern about the impact of the
plan on adjacent courts, particularly in the southwest corner. Mr. Jewel
expressed support for angled or perpendicular street parking as a means
of helping the entire community.
Ms. Hruby described plan 2 which included perpendicular parking on Ridge
Road. Mr. York expressed concern about the 21 foot cut into the yard.
He hoped Council would actively seek GHI's help in addressing this problem.
Ms. Brant asked about speeding and traffic calming. She indicated it
was her perception that speeding was not a problem on Ridge Road.
Mr. Jewel asked about who was paying for this project. Mr. Ferguson
responded that in general the Community Development Administration (CDA)
has said the city can use GRH funds. One GRH resident thought that speeding
was a problem on Ridge. Mr. Cassels asked how far the sidewalk would
be moved back. Mr. Anton responded that it was 8 feet back.
Mr. York stated that prior to GRH there was not a parking problem. He
did not have a problem giving GRH more dedicated parking as long as GHI
received additional dedicated parking. Another GRH resident expressed
concern about safety on Ridge.
Ms. Hruby explained plan 3 with angled parking. Mr. Drake asked about
the usage of the spaces in front of GRH. Ms. Hruby indicated her survey
noted available parking until 10:00 p.m. Ms. Evans indicated that parking
availability is inconsistent. Mr. Cassels stated that two residents have
2 cars and this complicates the situation. Ms. Lewis indicated that there
was ample availability near Gardenway. Ms. Evans indicated it was not
safe to walk from Gardenway. Mr. Jewel reported that there was a tremendous
growth rate in the number of cars at GRH. He also expressed concern about
the facility being Section 8.
Ms. McCarthy asked if parking could be front or rear. Ms. Hruby responded
that no restrictions were anticipated. Mr. Roberts hoped the discussion
would move into parking management, because he believed this would be
needed regardless of which option were chosen. A GRH resident expressed
support for sharing with her neighbors.
Mr. York asked what the future cap would be for GRH. Staff responded
that is was difficult to determine and noted that GRH's problem appeared
to be unique.
Mayor Davis asked if Council has a consensus. Mr. Turnbull believed
the City should have looked at parking management first before ever doing
plans. Mr. Roberts favored plan 1, but wanted to wait on perpendicular
or angled parking. He also wanted to replace the tree buffer on GHI property
and replace other trees o a 2-1 ratio.
Mr. Putens favored option 3 because he wanted to address the GHI problem
as well as the GRH problem.
Mayor Davis favored option 1 at this time and was not in favor of angled
or perpendicular parking because of safety concerns, but would be willing
to consider it in the future.
Ms. Brant expressed disappointment with the work session because parking
management was placed last on the agenda.
Ms. Hruby stated the goals for developing a parking management program.
She then proceeded to explain each option and the advantages and disadvantages
of each. Ms. Evans and Mr. Jewel expressed the concern that the permit
system is not currently enforced.
With regard to permit fees, Mr. Ferguson reported that Housing and Urban
Development (HUD) has indicated that the city could not charge a permit
fee for parking. Mr. Turnbull suggested that if the city used legal resources
and political pressure they might be able to get this changed. Mr. Putens
suggested that GRH provide input on the various management options.
Ms. Hruby outlined 3 parking management approaches that combined management
options to achieve a specific goal. She stressed the need to educate
current and future residents about the parking situation in the area.
Mr. Turnbull suggested a management approach that would make a concerted
effort to market Green Ridge House as a facility that is accessible to
services in the Center and accessible to public transportation. He suggested
promoting GRH as an opportunity for a car-free lifestyle. Mr. Putens
stated that this suggestion went too far and reflected one person's specific
values.
Mr. Cassels suggested giving priority points to persons without cars.
Mr. Ferguson reported that the Department of Housing and Community Development
(HCD) did not allow this as an option.
Mr. York stated that the current situation was unfair. He asked about
the possibility of permit parking in the area. Ms Hruby responded that
permit parking could be established. Ms. Eichhorst noted that GHI was
looking into this issue and was contemplating a request to City Council.
Mr. Roberts supported Mr. Turnbull's comments and stated that Greenbelt
had always promoted itself as a community that provides services within
walking distance. He believed that people without automobiles should
get a preference and suggested that the city push this issue with HUD
to address this situation.
Mayor Davis indicated that she would not support pursuing the preference
points issue at this particular time. Mr. Cassells asked if the area
could be marked based on the proposed plan. Council expressed support
for flagging the area and marking trees before they proceed with any
plan.
Mr. Turnbull favored staff pursuing a parking management plan. He suggested
using 1 and 3 as a beginning step of a parking management plan. Mr. Turnbull
believed it was unthinkable to pursue lot expansion before management
options are tried. He requested that the issue not appear on the next
agenda because he would be out of town.
Mr. Turnbull hoped the city would aggressively pursue changes to the
HUD contract to implement a fee structure. Mayor Davis did not support
the idea of a fee but was willing to look at other management options.
Mr. Roberts stated that residents of GHI pay for their parking through
management fees.
Mr. Roberts also stated that people who are truly of lesser means are
losing out and not able to access GRH. Mr. Putens stated that the intent
of GRH was to provide senior citizen housing that was affordable. Mr.
Ferguson reported that to be accepted into GRH you have to meet HUD's
standard of "very low income."
Mr. Turnbull stressed that a majority of GRH residents don't have cars
and believed that Council needed to pay attention to these residents.
There was some discussion regarding parking fees.
Mr. Jewel provided information on potential section 8 changes.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
David E. Moran, CMC
City Clerk
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