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WORK
SESSION OF THE GREENBELT CITY COUNCIL held Wednesday, March 12, 2003,
for the purpose of holding a stakeholder meeting with the County Planning
Board.
Mayor Davis started the meeting at 8:07 p.m. It was held in the Multipurpose
Room of the Community Center.
PRESENT WERE: Council members Rodney M. Roberts, Alan Turnbull, Thomas
X. White, and Mayor Judith F. Davis.
STAFF PRESENT WERE: Michael P. McLaughlin, City Manager; Celia Craze,
Director, and Kristen Ward, Community Planner, Planning and Community
Development; Joe McNeal, Assistant Director, Recreation; David E. Moran,
Assistant to the City Manager; and Kathleen Gallagher, City Clerk.
ALSO PRESENT WERE: Elizabeth M. Hewlett, Chairman, William M. Eley,
Jr., Vice Chairman, and Albert C. Scott, Board Member, Prince George’s
County Planning Board; Adrian Gardner, General Counsel, Fern Piret,
Director of Planning, Marye Wells-Harley, Director of Parks & Recreation,
Frances Guertin, Administrator, Andrea Davey, Public Affairs Officer,
Gary Wagner, Planning Department, and Joe O’Neill, Northern Area,
M-NCPPC; Sheldon Goldberg, Advisory Planning Board; and Judy Bell,
Greenbelt News Review.
Following introductions, Mayor Davis described the purpose of the
City’s stakeholder meetings. She thanked the Planning Board for
coming, noting that it had been a long time since such a meeting had
been held between the Board and Council and that she thought communication
had been better between the two groups recently. Ms. Hewlitt said the
Board was pleased to be invited and agreed that this would provide
a good opportunity to talk about any issues. She added she had never
felt the relationship between the Board and Council to be a negative
one but that, as a quasi-judicial body, the Board cannot always do
what people want.
Greenbelt Station
Mayor Davis gave a brief overview of the City’s reservations
about the plans previously submitted for Greenbelt Station, including
the environmental concerns, increased traffic on City streets, the
proposed beltway interchange, and the absence of anything meeting the
City’s definitions of mixed-use development or transit-oriented
development. She also commented that the City has heard revised plans
have been submitted. Mr. White added that the City’s had a positive
experience with the sector planning process and was dismayed to see
that subverted by the developers’ zoning subtext amendment. He
said the City invested a great deal in the plan only to have it be
ignored, and he attributed the City’s skepticism about the current
process at least in part to that disillusionment.
Ms. Hewlett responded that they do take the process seriously. They
are attempting to get more input from the community than they used
to and to notify interested parties in time for them to be able to
respond. She reiterated that it is nevertheless the case that when
there are different interests, everyone cannot win all the time. On
this subject, Dr. Piret added later in the meeting that staff reports
are now being published to the Web site promptly, and a staff member
is being assigned as a liaison to each municipality. She said she would
let Ms. Craze know who had been assigned to Greenbelt.
Dr. Piret said her office had not yet seen the revised plans. They
are being briefed next week by the State Highway Administration project
manager on plans for the interchange. She added that they share the
definition the Mayor described of “mixed use.”
Mr. Roberts added two more concerns with Greenbelt Station: that it
would damage existing shopping facilities, particularly Beltway Plaza,
and that the supposedly “upscale” development would simply
duplicate shopping available elsewhere. He stressed that any development
should be targeted at meeting local, not just regional, needs.
Mr. Turnbull stated that he thought it was important for the Board
to understand that Greenbelt is very proud of its early planning history
but has suffered “a history of incremental degradation,” only
some of which has been self-inflicted. He said even Greenbelt’s
most serious environmentalists have accepted that there will be development
at the Metro Station, but the City wants good development and good
planning.
Mr. White added that WMATA’s role in this process had left much
to be desired as well, since WMATA had acted as if it was a private
developer. Dr. Piret suggested passing those concerns along to the
county’s new representative on the WMATA board (Marcell Solomon).
Goddard Master Plan
Council said one item of concern for both Greenbelt and Prince George’s
County is that if Goddard succeeds in bringing its private contractors
onto the campus as planned, then there is potential for significant
impact on both the commercial real estate market and on the tax base.
Mayor Davis added that Goddard receives county services, including
the Fire Department. Dr. Piret said they had been given the impression
that Goddard did not intend to move in that direction for another 10-20
years, but that NASA should be approached about making payments in
lieu of taxes. Mr. Roberts responded that Council did not get the impression
that they plan to wait 10-20 years.
Enabling Planning & Zoning Authority
The Mayor explained there is now a modified bill pending. She said
the City has appreciated the work of Planning Board but thinks this
oversight is no longer necessary. She said there is an equity issue
involved: why does everyone else have this authority but not Prince
George’s County? Ms. Craze added that the items for which the
municipalities would gain authority under this bill are all appealable
to the District Council.
Ms. Hewlett said although there is a philosophical disagreement between
the Board and the City Council on this issue, she thought there might
be room for the incremental authority if properly framed. She said
she did not think the Board and Council were too far apart on the increment
proposed. She said she understands that Greenbelt feels as though it
is being treated like a child but that there is still an argument to
be made for regional oversight and compatibility. Mr. Roberts asked
why any cities in Maryland have zoning authority, if regional oversight
is so effective. He said he thought a legal issue was involved in treating
cities so differently from one another.
Mr. Gardner said the driving force originally was that in the D.C.
area, there was federal money available for parkland; the State of
Maryland wanted to be sure it got its share, and it wanted to tie development
and parkland. He said Prince George’s is the only county with
27 municipalities, which places it in a unique situation. He stressed
that the municipalities already have a role in all the significant
stages of review. He said even with the modified bill, there are potential
problems in “taking little pieces” out of this process
and in having a city sit in quasi-judicial capacity at the end of a
process. He also noted the sector planning process, which Greenbelt
thought had worked well, was a good example of a regional process involving
three cities. He said although he recognized that this is “an
attractive home rule issue,” the point is not whether cities
have the capacity to do it; rather, philosophically, they believe in
the county-wide structure, even if there is room for improvement.
Ms. Hewlett again said that “we are not far apart” on
the increment under consideration.
Mr. White stressed to Mr. Gardner that there was not a request to
change the rules and that any decision made by a municipality would
be appealable to the District Council. Mr. Gardner responded that this
in itself created problems because certain things not currently appealable
to the District Council would become so under this bill.
Mr. Roberts said the problem he saw was not with the board itself
but with the “political end game” that was played.
Funding for Programs
Ms. Hewlett said they had no idea where the information had come from
that M-NCPPC was considering phasing out its payments to municipalities
over a three-year period. She said this is untrue, and ”the money
is all still in the budget.” She expressed concern that the City
had copied its letter of complaint to all its elected representatives.
She added that M-NCPPC does provide other services to the City and
that it is not accurate to imply that the annual $79,000 is the only
benefit the City receives. She said if the City hears information of
this sort in the future, someone should call her for immediate clarification.
Mayor Davis said that staff would look into it and that if the information
was wrong, the City would correct it and get it out to those who had
been copied before. She said if the City’s information was wrong,
she apologized.
Technical Issues
Regarding possible revision to the woodlands ordinance, Mayor Davis said the
recent experience with Golden Triangle had suggested that developers have
too much leeway with off-site mitigation. The City recognizes that this leeway
is currently allowed under the law but wonders if some tightening of the
law would be feasible. Dr. Piret said there are some items pending for updating
in the ordinance and that this could possibly be added. She said she would
have her staff take a look at it and would consult with Ms. Craze on it.
Regarding standards for parking spaces and parking lots, Dr. Piret
said they could look at this as well. In terms of the Golden Triangle
case, she said it was interesting that usually they are told by applicants
that Park & Planning requires too much parking, not, as this applicant
said, too little. Mr. Turnbull clarified that, with regard to parking
lot plans, the City was concerned with both pervious surfaces and with
the aesthetic issues.
Mayor Davis asked if it would be possible to get stronger zoning enforcement
assistance when people fall out of compliance with their original site
or landscape plans, the recent problems with the Exxon station at Greenbelt
and Hanover being the prime example. Dr. Piret said the Department
of Environmental Resources has authority for zoning enforcement; however,
they operate on a basis of responding to complaints.
Ms. Hewlett thanked Council for initiating this meeting, and Council
thanked the Planning Board and staff members for coming.
The stakeholder meeting was completed at about 10:05 p.m.
Other Business
It was agreed to defer the executive session scheduled for tonight
since Mr. Putens was not available.
Mr. Moran said the Bi-County Committee had not voted on the modified
zoning bill yesterday because of other items. Mayor Davis said Delegate
Gaines now believes there are enough votes even without Delegate Ross’s
vote.
The meeting ended at 10:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Gallagher
City Clerk
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