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SESSION OF THE GREENBELT CITY COUNCIL held Monday, June 14, 2004, for
the purpose of holding a stakeholder meeting with the Greenbelt Homes,
Inc. (GHI) Board.
Mayor Davis called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. It was held in
the Board Room at the GHI Offices.
PRESENT WERE: Councilmembers Edward V. J. Putens, Rodney M. Roberts,
and Mayor Judith F. Davis. Councilmember Leta Mach was out of town.
Councilmember Konrad E. Herling arrived at 8:10 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT WERE: Michael P. McLaughlin, City Manager; and Kathleen
Gallagher, City Clerk.
ALSO PRESENT WERE: Julia Eichhorst, Dorothy Lauber, Sylvia Lewis,
Don Hudson, Chuck Hess, Gretchen Overdurff, and Bill Wilkerson, GHI.
GHI Marketing Presentation: The newly revised GHI slide show, which
is shown at pre-purchase orientation meetings, was shown. Mayor Davis
also noted that Council appreciates receiving the copies of the Communicator
and the agendas of board meetings.
Maintenance of City-Owned Open Space: Ms. Eichhorst said some GHI
members had brought to the board’s attention the condition of
the area near 56 Court Cresent. Mr. McLaughlin asked if these were
recent complaints, since the City has done a good deal of work there
over the last three weeks or so. He said one individual who had complained
to the City Council about this earlier had recently come to a meeting
to thank the City for its work. He asked to be called if it continued
to be a problem in any way. In terms of grass-cutting and fields, he
said there is a schedule of 10 days for playgrounds, about the same
or “as needed” for ball fields, and 2-3 weeks for other
areas. Again, he said if there was a problem, just to call. Mr. Hess
noted the area between Crescent and Parkway. Mayor Davis said that
area is privately owned. Mr. McLaughlin said the City owns the area
down in the vicinity of the underpass.
Maintenance of Inner Walkways: Ms. Overdurff said they would like
clarification on what the City intends to do during snowstorms. She
said she thought there was once a map and an agreement. There was discussion
of the report made to Council on snow-clearing priorities, and Mr.
McLaughlin said he would send a copy to Ms. Overdurff. She said they
appreciated that what the City could do with walkways depended on the
demands of the snowfall but that if they knew the City’s priorities,
then GHI could develop a complementary plan. She also mentioned that
GHI is working with its members to improve trimming on walkways so
they will not be obstructed.
Bulk Purchase of Ice-Melt Products: Ms. Overdurff said they have a
storage problem for bulk products and thus were buying in bags. She
asked if they might buy bulk from the City. Mr. McLaughlin said if
they could benefit on price by piggy-backing, the City would be happy
to help, but that the City does not always store much beyond its own
needs; thus, depending on the demands, at any given point in the season
the City may not be able to share its supply. Mayor Davis mentioned
that with the ice of last year, the City had to turn down requests
from other municipalities to share, as well. Mr. Putens suggested it
might also be worthwhile to see if the City gets a better price than
GHI on bags.
Historic District: Ms. Eichhorst said they would appreciate a presentation
from City staff on this, in part because in many ways it is a totally
new document and many of the cast of characters have changed. She said
they are busy through the summer anyway and were thinking in terms
of November or early December. She asked they were aware that City
staff was not in favor of pursuing this and asked if that was Council’s
opinion, too; if that were the case, it might not be worth GHI’s
spending time on. Mayor Davis said Council had received copies of the
revised guidelines but had not discussed them. She said the City had
always been willing to be supportive of whatever GHI wished to do for
itself but had not gotten beyond the question of what, if anything,
besides GHI should be included if it went forward. Mr. Roberts said
he was still in favor of it and hoped GHI would review it seriously.
Ms. Eichhorst also commented that if the revised version is much stricter,
there may be less support for it among the membership.
Pepco Undergrounding: It was discussed that there is no realistic
expectation of this anytime soon, since it is extremely expensive to
retrofit.
Additional Parking at McDonald Field: Ms. Overdurff said a resident
had said the City would increase the parking area. It was agreed that
there would be problems involving property lines, location, and maintenance.
The City is waiting for an overall plan for the field. Mr. McLaughlin
said any GHI input on that would be welcome. Mr. Roberts said he thought
extending the parking would be a bad idea, since that tends to become
a “never-ending intrusion” into a residential neighborhood.
The Mayor agreed, adding that the neighbors of the field seemed to
be very tolerant of it and even enjoy it as a piece of small town living,
which might lose its charm pretty quickly if it expanded.
Trash/Recycling: Mayor Davis commented on upcoming changes, including
a requirement to use paper bags for leaves that would be implemented
in the spring. Other changes involve placement of trash containers
for pick up and access on a hard-surfaced paths. Although the latter
changes primarily impact single family houses, there is an access issue
at 7 Court Crescent. Ms. Overdurff asked if the City would consider
any other alternatives for GHI members other than bagging leaves: e.g.,
bringing them to a street area for vacuuming. Mr. McLaughlin said that
had not worked before because it took up parking spaces and seemed
to contribute to a dumping problem.
Zoning for Mini-Storage: Ms. Overdurff said they had talked with the
City Solicitor but were waiting to hear back from him. Mr. McLaughlin
said he had checked with Mr. Manzi, who said he thought the next step
would be for GHI representatives to meet with Park & Planning staff.
He told Mr. McLaughlin he thought GHI either should be able to do this
as an accessory use under the existing zoning or request an amendment
to the zoning ordinance to add a use. Ms. Lewis said they have been
told only one non-conforming use is allowed and the GHI office complex
is it. Mr. McLaughlin said to call Mr. Manzi to find out whom to call
at Park & Planning.
Greenhill/Hillside Outfall Stabilization: It was agreed that Bill
Phelan would be asked to do a brief (15-30 minute) presentation on
the GHI components of this issue and any other GHI aspects of the lake
watershed study, so that the board can consider it with their budget
process. They suggested their August meeting would be a good time.
A work session would then be planned to deal with it in several months
when the City has design plans and can talk about it more specifically.
Mr. Wilkerson noted that the GHI Woodlands Committee had planted many
hemlock trees in that area.
Anacostia Trails Heritage Area (ATHA) Signage: Mayor Davis explained
the purpose of this program and the interest in placing an interpretive
panel near the GHI offices that would be similar to the ones the City
had placed elsewhere. She said there would be no cost to GHI, and GHI
would have approval of what would go on it. Ms. Eichhorst asked that
a written request be submitted that could be placed on the agenda of
their July meeting for action.
Control of Non-Native Invasives in Woodlands: Mr. Herling had attended
part of tonight’s Recycling & Environment Advisory Committee
meeting, where there was discussion of the use of herbicides. Some
people are strongly opposed to any herbicide use by the City; others
think that Bill Phelan has adequately reviewed and evaluated the City’s
practice on this issue. Ms. Eichhorst asked if the City has a plan
for dealing with the invasives yet. The Mayor said not yet, and the
Advisory Committee on Trees’ report is out to other boards for
review prior to coming to Council for discussion. Ms. Lewis said GHI
had concluded that there is simply no way to reduce the non-native
invasive species, which GHI must do because of the Forest Preservation
Program, without use of herbicides. Mr. Putens recounted his experience
with poison ivy in his area of Greenbelt East.
Mr. Roberts said some people were very upset with the approach GHI
had taken with the demonstration area on Hillside. He said people think
the herbicides are a bigger problem than the invasives, simply less
visible. He said the herbicides also clear both native and non-native
species. He said he recognized there was an issue where City property
abuts GHI property but that otherwise most of the City’s woodlands
have little problem. He said the suggestion that Parcel I is going
to be overgrown is extreme.
Mayor Davis asked that GHI document or provide maps for which specific
areas of City property are of greatest concern to GHI in this regard
so that the City can focus on those. Ms. Overdurff said they had walked
the areas with Bill Phelan and she thought he knew what they were but
that she would send a map and something in writing.
Bill Wilkerson added that the Forest Preserve Task Force was assuming
that it should be considering this topic under its charge to develop
maintenance plans. He noted that GHI has a five-year plan to eliminate
English Ivy from yards. He added that he thought there might be less
draconian ways to apply herbicides than the approach taken in the GHI
demonstration project.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Gallagher
City Clerk
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