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WORK SESSION of the Greenbelt City Council held Monday, June 13,
2005, for the purpose of holding a stakeholder meeting with the Greenbelt
Homes, Inc. (GHI) Board.
Mayor Davis and Ms. Eichhorst called the meeting to order at about 8:05
p.m. It was held in the Board Room at the GHI Offices.
PRESENT WERE: Councilmembers Konrad E. Herling, Leta M. Mach, Edward V.
J. Putens, Rodney M. Roberts, and Mayor Judith F. Davis.
STAFF PRESENT WERE: Michael P. McLaughlin, City Manager; Terri Hruby,
Assistant Director, Planning; David E. Moran, Assistant City Manager; and
Kathleen Gallagher, City Clerk.
ALSO PRESENT WERE: GHI Board Members Julia Eichhorst, Dorothy Lauber,
Sylvia Lewis, Don Hudson, Chuck Hess, Gail Alexanderwicz, Sheila Alpers,
and Joyce Abell, and George Moore; GHI Audit Committee members Diane Wilkerson,
Mary Crellin, and Diana McFadden; Gretchen Overdurff, General Manager,
and GHI staff members Eldon Ralph and Tom Sporney.
Playground Agreement: Mayor Davis explained that only Windsor Green, with
five or six playgrounds, and Greenwood Village, with one playground, had
decided to sign the agreement in addition to GHI. She noted that the City
had reduced the budget for capital improvements for the playgrounds and
had decided against hiring an additional maintenance person in Public Works.
Mr. McLaughlin added that since the Windsor Green playgrounds are most
in need of repair, those have been moved to the front of the list. The
Mayor asked if a copy of that list could be provided when it was available.
Ms. Lewis also asked for clarification on the arrangements for City maintenance
of City playgrounds located within GHI. Mr. McLaughlin said GHI would continue
to do the maintenance but bill the City for the costs.
RPC Zoning Issue: Mayor Davis said Council had asked to see the criteria
used by GHI in approving an addition to a house. Mr. Sporney provided copies
of pages from the GHI handbook and other forms and materials. The Mayor
raised issues of whether it was possible for residents to circumvent the
permitting process and how frequently people received county permits without
coming to the City. Based on other materials that were distributed, there
was considerable discussion regarding the size of additions, GHI criteria
and requirements, and under what circumstances GHI assumes responsibility
for maintenance of the addition.
Mayor Davis said it was her belief that there were people in GHI who
were opposed to lifting the requirement for filing a Detailed Site Plan
(DSP) but who were “intimidated” about speaking out because
of what has happened to those who have spoken out. Ms. Lewis asked what
exactly had happened to those who had spoken out. She said she would like
to know, since this was a community where everyone spoke out all the time.
Mr. Hudson remarked that it was certainly reasonable to assume that most
people would prefer to have the option of what to do with their homes rather
than cede that authority to the county.
Mayor Davis asked how GHI would handle it if everyone in a court or everyone
in a row of GHI houses wanted an addition. Mr. Hudson said he was not aware
of any discussion about limiting that or handling it. The number of existing
additions would not in itself trigger a need for special review by the
Architecture and Environment Committee or the GHI board. The Mayor said
if GHI imposed no restrictions on the number and size of additions, then
GHI could become very built out and lose much of the quality of the historic
community by losing green space and leaving only paths between the houses.
Ms. Lewis responded that there was no way that anyone would be allowed
to cover the whole yard. She said, “We’re evoking worst-case
scenarios when what we need to be doing is looking at the 1988 law.” She
said dealing with the 1988 law was the issue on the agenda, and the detail
of the GHI review process could be discussed later.
In response to the Mayor’s concern that more GHI additions would
bring larger households with more cars and increased parking problems,
Mr. Hess said the trend had been exactly the opposite over his tenure on
the board. He said people’s increased need for space does not necessarily
translate into larger households and additional vehicles.
Mr. Roberts asked what GHI favors. Ms. Lewis said they favor the City
staff’s proposed bill, which incorporates Mr. Peters’ bill
exempting GHI from the DSP requirement but goes further in exempting other
single-family houses and City property.
GHI member Mark Commins said he did not see what the Mayor’s questions
had to do with the law. He said the existing law does not benefit anyone
and does not serve to remedy any of the theoretical problems the Mayor
was raising. He said all the law was doing was causing hardship.
GHI member David Morse agreed with Mr. Commins that the issues under
discussion were not relevant to the existing law. He said he was more concerned
with the impact on the stability of the community of families leaving than
the parking situation.
Mr. Hudson said although he recognized there were legitimate concerns,
he did not want additional county interference.
GHI member Susan Ready said she agreed that the existing law and its
DSP requirement had to go. She said she would still like to see some control
that was external to GHI, but she agreed that the control should not be
in this law.
Mr. Putens asked if the GHI board wanted to see any limitation external
to its own rules. Mr. Hudson said he was not categorically opposed to any
City or county control. Ms. Lewis said she opposed any stated limitation,
because the implication of a limitation is always that it is okay to go
that far. She said none of the percentage rules that have been proposed
make any sense. She said she does not support control at the county level;
rather, she supports the City staff’s amendments to the bill. Ms.
Alexanderwicz agreed with Ms. Lewis on all counts. She said, “If
a number is there, it’s a target.”
Pesticides: Ms. Eichhorst said they had heard the City had a committee
looking at this. Mayor Davis said the Recycling & Environment Advisory
Committee had been asked by Council to look further into the issue and
make any recommendations regarding City use of insecticides. Mr. McLaughlin
said the committee expects to take about a year on this project before
returning with a report. He encouraged GHI members to become involved or
share materials.
GHI-City MOU on Right-of-Way Issues: Since both the GHI board and the
City Council had just received the draft document and had not reviewed
it, it was understood that this would have to be discussed at another time.
In response to questions from Mr. Hess and Mr. Hudson, Mr. McLaughlin said
it was not practical to consider a swap of land between the City and GHI
since, for the City, that would involve very expensive issues of boundary
surveys. Nor would simply ceding land to GHI work, since the City considered
it likely that if, for example, a City street was on GHI property, then
there had probably been a shift that meant GHI was also occupying comparable
City property. He noted that in the past, the City had not had a problem
with dealing with this on a fairly informal basis. It was agreed that after
the draft document had been reviewed by the board, it would be placed on
a City Council agenda.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Gallagher
City Clerk
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